£12m plan for Grimsby's Ice Factory is unveiled

“why have they not STILL realized the POTENTIAL that this could work in the old abc cinema in freeman street thus creating a great central peice to the st , and keeping the last art deco building in grimsby”

“Oh dear GGIFT, do you really believe that is a convincing case? You are going to "approach" some organisations for funding. Have they said yes and how much or is this just a wish list? You are not approaching NELC which is a good thing but you will no doubt expect NELC support when income doesn't match running costs, because there is no way that you could generate enough income to maintain a building of this size and age without massive help. It will never ever be self-supporting.

Jobs? How many? How secure? What do they depend on? The market for your rock face, the cinema and the rest of it is limited to say the least. There are enough conference centres already and the number of casual visitors to the "various shops" is not going to pay their electric light bill. We do not live in the middle of the country like folks in Stoke. Just look what happened with the grand ambitions for the Fishing Heritage plan. Is it realistic to think that people from other towns will travel to the end of the A180 to support you?”

“Another Grimsby farce! If it doesn't cost US a penny, they fine go ahead and build another monument to failure. Even worse, the NELC may want to get their sticky fingers in the pie and give it the kiss of death like every other scheme they are involved with at the moment!

To be realistic, it was shut down after years of neglect and lack of maintenance. To refurbish a derelict building is costly, far more costly than a new build. New build has exact requirements designed in and incorporates energy efficiency.

As mentioned earlier, costs of refurbishment often run well over budget as structural and foundation problems emerge. To even think 18 000-oo is on the way is pure fantasy and delusion. Do they think we will all rush forward and pledge money, or contribute to another expensive white elephant? They are talking of having 0·15% of the required capital to build, that underlines their delusion.

That kind of money would be better used to new build on the river head eyesore, close to other amenities.

The ice factory was just another facet of the Grimsby fishing history, collectively not very glamorous. The docks in the fishing era was a miserable place with thousands of workers earning pitiful wages for abysmal jobs. Get real and let it go. By all means place a artificial bronze plaque to show where the ice factory was before demolition.

The blue sky thinking trio in the photo should enter reality, get real jobs and stop scheming ways to waste money. Take a look at the official NELC failures for guidance, especially the Arena, the attached shops, the sunken boat at the heritage centre, the proposed swimming pool disaster etc., etc.

Location, location, location = failure, failure, failure.”

“@GGIFT I don't turn out for non events such as that but you'd have me interested if you were proposing to use the Ice Factory as a sarcophagi to house the remains of Freemo after the bulldozers had finished with it.

Don't forget to paint it in brilliant white though with a trawler painted on it, if anyone can remember what a trawler looks like, or even, what they were used for.”

“There's no mention of ABP - I doubt they are in favour of this scheme and the Trust will struggle without their support. As discussed in previous articles, what about the old cinema on Freemo? It's in better condition and has much better access than the docks and has lots of space to store the ice factory equipment. It's still for sale so if the Trust is interested in this idea let me know...”

“Nearest climbing wall is Sheffield? What about Rock City in Hull or a little further down the M62 At X-Scape in Glasshoughton.
Unfortunately the Ice Factory and its surrounding area are sadly what they are, History.”

“The businesses are potential tennants?
Yes I don't blame them......... Having a 12mil building redesigned and purpose built for what they want to do....... All without having to pay a penny out until the time comes to pay rent!! I don't blame them for wanting to get involved. I'm sure a lot of businesses would love this kind of thing. But I'm sure this went out to tender to give other businesses the chance to get involved didn't it?? The answer to that is no! You are wasting this money on giving your mates a foot up! I'm sure you have your builder plumber and electrician friends all lined up to make a fortune out of this too!”

“Is it April 1st already or will someone pinch me and tell me I am not dreaming.
The docks is rat infested and always has been, pull this dump down and move on.
The planners have destroyed finer buildings in Grimsby.

£12,000,000 ! It will not happen.
Who's trying to make money out of this scam?

In the real world.”

“Ask the tax payer what they want. I think we could create some jobs knocking it down and clearing this dock estate up.”

“1812/Good Citizen/LaDeDah. We waited all afternoon and evening for you.You could have come and talked to us in private in the afternoon, or put your views in the evening in front of everyone. You could have filled in a feedback form. Perhaps you are just a tease.

If you had come along to the meeting we could have told you about the charitable and private sources who we will be approaching for finance. We are not looking for Council Tax money. We are trying to create jobs. What are you trying to do?

The businesses who are supporting us are potential tenants - they are not looking for charity money. They don't need it.

We share your concerns about the economic situation facing North East Lincolnshire. What are your solutions?”