VOTE: Area asked to decide between axing Humber Bridge tolls and improving roads
WHICH would you prefer: scrapping the Humber Bridge tolls or crucial improvements being made to our roads?
Today, the new transport secretary Philip Hammond has revealed that the area will be asked to choose between the scrapping of the Humber Bridge Tolls or crucial road upgrades across the area – as there is not enough cash for both.
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'Trade-off': Transport secretary Philip Hammond has revealed that the area will be asked to choose between the scrapping of the Humber Bridge tolls or crucial road upgrades, like the duelling of the A160 near Immingham.
He has warned that if the country is to get back in the black and reduce its £154-billion debt, then tough decisions to cut government funding for projects such as these will have to be made.
And today we are calling on you to make your voice heard, by letting us know if you would rather see the fight to abolish the £2.70 bridge toll come to fruition, or whether you believe schemes like the duelling of the A160 will be more beneficial.
New Cleethorpes MP Martin Vickers said while believes he is right in that cutting the debt must come first – he has vowed to continue fighting for both schemes.
But Mr Hammond said a "trade off" would be inevitable.
For further details – and local reaction to the plans – see today's Grimsby Telegraph.







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by Harry Lamb and the labour lady., Grimsby.
Monday, July 26 2010, 1:07AM
“Harry Lamb says" If all of you people that have a need and an unquenchable desire to visit East Yorkshire on a regular basis and think that the bridge tolls an inconvenience please consider that a household move over the river as a permanent and economic measure, it makes sense" The labour lady agrees. " It all makes perfect sense". She says. "Pounds,shillings and pence"”
by Jimmy Tickleburger, Meggies.
Sunday, July 25 2010, 7:11PM
“I agree with Steve from down south. If the tolls where abolished tomorrow the the traffic would remain virtually the same.The abolishment of the bridge tolls creating economic re-generation on the south bank is a ludicrous idea.It's about time people woke up to the fact that the bridge is nothing more than an expensive folly. Deal with it. Nothing is going to change. It always was a bridge too far-and still is!”
by Mark, GRIMSBY IS NOT IN YORKSHIRE
Sunday, July 25 2010, 5:47PM
“I agree with ,''Jimmy Tickleburger., Meggies'' .The bridge is not and never will be economically viable.If we weren't part of the ''city region of hell'',then people would have even less need to go there.Why do we have to go to hospitals there ,why we still have humberside police etc?”
by William Steadman, Brigg
Sunday, July 25 2010, 12:38PM
“Everyone knows that the Humber Bridge will never pay for itself, so the cost of the tolls is immaterial. This said, comparing the cost of travelling accross the Humber Bridge with other estuary crossings, the price is too high, and is a barrier to growth of local businesses, and to the communities on both sides of the river.
A round trip for a large truck costs £ 36.60, and this cost is passed on to the consumer. The debt will never be paid, and therefore it would be wiser for the government to intervene, and cancel the debt. The toll money could then be used to pay for the upkeep of the bridge, and allow a fairer toll to be applied.
Readers of this column may or may not be aware that when the bridge was originally planned, the bridge was expected to link up with the M11 in the south, and form a new north/south motorway. This never happened, and from that point, if the bridge had to be paid for by the revenues generated by 'local' traffic, the debt could never be paid in full by this means only.
I beleive that that the government will never intervene to reduce or cancel the debt, and therefore it would be fairer if the council tax payers of the four counties which border the River Humber should be given concessionary rates to use the bridge, and any resident of these areas travelling from either side of the bridge for hospital treatment should given free passage.
With regard to point 2, the construction of a dual carriage at the Ulceby Interchange, this has to happen. Speaking as someone who travels the A180 to and from work, this is a necessity, and should have been considered at the outset. The road needs to be a dual carriageway, and there has to be an overpass or underpass at the junction where the truckstop is, and at the roundabout at Top Road. The volume of traffic that uses this road, 24/7 means that this is one of the busiest, and most dangerous roads south of the humber.
Furthermore, the proposed link between Stallingborough roundabout on the A1173 and the Stallingborough interchange on the A180 is a no brainer. If you are travelling from the A46 heading for Immingham Docks, or Kiln Lane Industrial Estate, you currently have 2 options. You head for Grimsby, and follow Littlecoates Rd, Yarborough Rd, and Boulevard Avenue to the A180, or as a lot of the trucks do, you turn off at Caistor Top, and follow the A1173 to Riby Crossroads & the A18. When you get to the A18, trucks will either turn left for Keelby or continue to Stallingborough Roundabout, where the more unscrupulous drivers will ignor the weight limit in Stallingborough village, and head for the industrial estate, or turn left again, and head for Immingham. If the proposed link road were to be built, it would enable the local council to put a weight limit on the B1210 to Immingham, and would make the people of Immingham a lot happier.
In simple terms, there should be no choice; All 3 projects should happen.”
by Keith, Cleethorpes
Sunday, July 25 2010, 12:24PM
“I think the Humber Bridge toll charges should have been abolished along time ago. Do peolpe realise how much extra money we have to pay on our goods for transportation because of the bridge toll charges. Reading the comments made by some of your readers I wonder how many of your readers actually use the Humber Bridge or ever have, to either visit relitives or friends or love ones being treated either as a outpatient/Inpatient at any of the hospitals in Hull so please before writing any silly or stupid comments just think that the Humber Bridge is being used for serious uses not just for pleasure and shopping.
Our Ambulance use the Humber Bridge on a regular basis both for transporting outpatients with cancer or heart problems as well as emergency visits which if the toll was a abolished could save It could save the NHS on both side of the river quite a bit of money on their budgets.
Also bus charges could be cut on the journey back and forth from Cleethorpes to Hull if the tolls is scrapped.
A quick word about road repairs which we car drivers and motor bike riders pay for with our road tax any way, I think before the A160 road is started or considered, the Government should consider repairng and making the whole of the A180 a lot safer & quieter this would have many benifits such as less noise, safer driving conditions ( no pot holes in the roads) less fuel consumption,so less pollution so less globel warning gasses.
I think that our Grimsby Telegraph should offer the transport minister an invertation to come to Grimsby and take ride along both ways of the A180 both north & south bound so he can see, hear & understand what all us drivers in Grimsby and other local area's have to put with daily and also see how much traffic use it and the minister could be told that the road has never been resurfaced since it was first laid all them years ago
Keith Cleethorpes”
by Pensioner, Immingham
Sunday, July 25 2010, 12:04PM
“Jon, Immingham:
Please could you explain how an Immingham by-pass will reduce the ABP pollution from the briquette plants and the bulk storage areas.
The argument that the dust is generated by HGV's doesn't stand up to scrutiny. Many roads in Cleethorpes have higher traffic loads than those going through Immingham.....does Cleethorpes suffer the dust problem.
I have a little knowledge on fugitive dusts and controls, I am always learning and look forward to your explanation of the dust going away co-incident to any Immingham by-pass.”
by Pensioner, Immingham
Sunday, July 25 2010, 11:54AM
“Cant believe it cant accept the vote of 70:30 to abolish the bridge toll, just like you couldn't accept the 66:33 vote to abolish the Immingham council.
And since you raised the issue of dust, this little snippet shows the feelings of the costliest parish council in N E Lincs.....
296/09 Air Quality
Committee discussed the ongoing situation. It was felt that continually raising the subject was doing no good at all and if nothing could actually be done to ease or improve the situation then was there any merit in keep raising it?
Proposed: MP
Seconded: EC”
by Pensioner, Immingham
Sunday, July 25 2010, 11:48AM
“Can't believe it, Immingham:
The section of road to dualled on the A-160 is nowhere near Immingham!
I understand the Stallingborough interchange to the Stallingborough/Immingham roundabout proposal may influence traffic through Immingham but even this could not be classed as an effective by-pass until some roads are blocked off.
Sadly we are now suffering the legacy of 13 years of labour debts........what do you propose, borrow some more money?”
by TH, GY
Sunday, July 25 2010, 11:28AM
“There is another idea, wait until our useless MP is over the other side, then knock the bridge down and widen the river.”
by josephine white, Grimsby
Sunday, July 25 2010, 11:28AM
“Cole wrote: " Perhaps it would be cheaper to build another bridge next to it!"
Perhaps .. it's time to re-commission the Lincoln Castle - and a few more like her!! (smile).”