Cutting speed limits 'won't cut crashes' on North East Lincolnshire's roads
CUTTING speed limits will not necessarily reduce the number of accidents on North East Lincolnshire's roads.
That's the view of Ray Elliott, chairman of the Grimsby and Louth branch of the Institute Of Advanced Motorists.
Giving evidence to the council's speed limit review select committee yesterday, Mr Elliott said: "Reducing speed limits does not address the problem of driver error – and 95 per cent of all vehicle crashes are caused by driver error.
"Whatever the speed limit you will still get people driving in a dangerous manner.
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"With ever-reducing budgets, is this the right time to spend money on reducing speed limits?"
Mr Elliott told the panel that "unrealistic" speed limits would only encourage motorists to break the law.
Citing the stretch of the A180 between Lockhill Roundabout and Riby Square as an example, he said: "The limit is 30mph but most people do 40mph. A 30mph limit is not realistic."
He suggested that more driver education would be a better way of reducing accidents, saying: "Driver education is the difficult option but it is the right way forward.
"If the council gave all its drivers extra driving instruction it would send a message that the council is serious about road safety."
However, Professor John Wann, head of psychology at the Royal Holloway, University of London, giving evidence by speaker phone, said that reducing speed limits on rural-urban roads would potentially reduce the errors that drivers make.
Steve Biddle, northern regional manager for the Road Haulage Association, suggested that some of the 40mph speed limits being proposed could create "bunching, impatience and potentially dangerous overtaking manoeuvres".
The select committee will meet again at Grimsby Town Hall at 1.15pm next Thursday.
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by TheWrangler
Friday, February 01 2013, 10:17PM
“1812o - aka EPIC FAIL!”
by 1812o
Friday, February 01 2013, 9:02PM
“What, children,children"?
OMG don't tell me the Keyboard Jack O' No Trades are in Nappies (iPads ;-), that's even worse than them being in their tea stained vests and baggy Y's all day as they recycle their daily diarrhoea. Thank God that democracy ensures that they aren't consulted, I mean, who would?”
by muff10
Friday, February 01 2013, 8:09PM
“children,children”
by CRATCHET
Friday, February 01 2013, 4:31PM
“1812o - how do you keep your vest and pants clean ?”
by Malcolm_Ex
Friday, February 01 2013, 1:47PM
“Ha ha, 1812o has realised just how gormless he is and how ridiculous his reasoning was and has resorted to buffoonery! Now get your pants back on, hand the laptop back to mummy and get back to reading the Beano.”
by TheWrangler
Friday, February 01 2013, 1:29PM
“1812o addmitted being a "Keyboard Jack O' No Trades sitting in his grubby vest and pants all day trying to inject a bit of belonging into his empty live"
Nice, thanks for sharing that image, ew nasty!”
by 1812o
Friday, February 01 2013, 1:28PM
“We don't need no keyboard heroes duummmmm
We don't need no keyboard control
All in all they're just another, pain in the R's
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WE'LL PAY HIS CONSULTANCY FEES
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by Malcolm_Ex
Friday, February 01 2013, 1:21PM
“Using your figures (that you copied) if you take away the 36 accidents at the junctions you are left with 16 accidents. Where is the evidence they were caused by excessive speed?”
by Malcolm_Ex
Friday, February 01 2013, 1:16PM
“1812o - Stuart Greaves was elected by whom? And where is this so called evidence that reducing the speed limit, rather than the junction changes, has reduced accidents??
Blindly accepting one side of a story says a lot about your way of thinking, or lack of. You are a moron.”
by RoadWorker
Friday, February 01 2013, 12:57PM
“Only two members of the public turn up
THE voice of the driver - "Association of British Drivers" didnt turn up or send a letter
The panel stated that it was not just about car drivers, they question about van, hgv, bus, motorcycle, cyclist and pedestrians
This paper should be ashemed at its reporting, Steve Biddle stated that his HGV drivers are limited to 40 mph on the A18 and this speed normally gets vehicles bunching.
Speed cameras on "peak parks way" are in use - they are collecting data so do not require signage.
Stuat Greaves is retired.”