Elderly Grimsby couple given Asbos for abusive and intimidating behaviour

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Monday, December 03, 2012
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TWO pensioners aged 85 and 71 have been given anti-social behaviour orders after making the lives of another couple a misery by repeatedly using abusive and intimidating behaviour.

They are easily the oldest people in the Grimsby area to be given Asbos – and are also among the oldest in the whole country.

  1. Campaign of abuse: Joseph Gallagher  and Dorothy Womersley were warned that if they breached the terms of the Asbo  they could face prison.

    Campaign of abuse: Joseph Gallagher and Dorothy Womersley were warned that if they breached the terms of the Asbo they could face prison.

Joseph Gallagher, 85, and Dorothy Womersley, 71, who live together off Laceby Road, Grimsby, have been given five-year Asbos.

The Asbos were imposed at Grimsby Magistrates' Court yesterday – and deputy district judge Helen Cousins told the couple that, despite their ages, she would send them both to prison if they appeared before her for a breach of the order. She said she believed that, from the evidence gathered, the pensioners had committed criminal offences.

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The couple are said to have targeted another family and to have repeatedly subjected them to abusive, insulting or intimidating language or behaviour, as well as other incidents including causing damage to property.

The Asbo applications were brought as a final resort by the police and North East Lincolnshire Council after the couple apparently rebuffed repeated attempts to deal with the matter informally.

It is believed they had been warned by the police about their behaviour. The council had offered to provide mediation but, although the other family agreed, the pensioners are thought to have refused.

Defence solicitor Ed Bates, representing the couple in court, did not oppose the Asbos.

Following the court hearing, Councillor Dave Bolton, portfolio holder for community safety and neighbourhoods, said: "The Asbo was applied for as a final resort.

"We hope that it will serve as a very strong reminder about what is and is not acceptable behaviour.

"As a local authority, we have an obligation to take action to protect the community. We hope that both Mr Gallagher and Mrs Womersley will reflect on this and will refrain from the activities contained within the Asbo."

Spencer Hunt, North East Lincolnshire Council's manager for safer and stronger communities, added: "It's unfortunate that it has come to this point, but all efforts to make them change their behaviour by other means have failed.

"If the couple fail to conform to what is now legally expected of them, they know full well what the consequences will be."

Antisocial behaviour co-ordinator Paul Condon said: "It's unfortunate that we have had to take the action we have.

I hope the order granted will mean that the lives of both families may now return to normal."

Andy Everett, Humberside Police's crime reduction manager, described the couple's behaviour as "abusive, intimidating and insulting".

Conditions of the Asbo ban Joseph Gallagher and Dorothy Womersley from:

Contacting, attempting to contact or communicating with the family directly or indirectly, personally or via a third party, including by sending a message to be delivered by another person (except via a solicitor) or by letter, telephone or any other means.

Entering the family's property, including the rear and front gardens as well as any outbuildings.

Throwing any object which may cause damage or harm to either person or property in North East Lincolnshire.

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  • Profile image for AnandaHelli

    by AnandaHelli

    Wednesday, December 12 2012, 12:42PM

    “'It's unfortunate that we have had to take the action we have.' Why is it unfortunate? Why be soft on people who are out to ruin the lives of others?”

  • Profile image for davendogs

    by davendogs

    Tuesday, December 04 2012, 12:14AM

    “Puts a new slant on keep a eye on your elderly neighbours this winter.”

  • Profile image for jeffnorthgy

    by jeffnorthgy

    Monday, December 03 2012, 11:06PM

    “I personally know thus couple.
    They are a nasty piece of work, pure evil.
    It is about time they got their comupance, they are vicious.
    They should have gone to prison for a couple of months, spent Christmas behind bars.
    Evilness.

    Jeff North Grimsby”

  • Profile image for Fergie20

    by Fergie20

    Monday, December 03 2012, 10:13PM

    “Please don't anyone feel sorry for this couple. I also know of the vicious things that have been going on as my relatives live on Barry Avenue.
    Their constant abuse and actions have already driven one decent hardworking couple out of their home, given a lot of verbal abuse to another elderly couple who thankfully have 'stuck it out' and now once again have caused much distress to another hardworking couple and their child.
    As far as I am concerned they should have known better and have at last got what they deserve.
    I only hope that they now leave the family in peace but am sure they will soon find another family to cause distress to. I just hope it isn't my family!”

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    by TheJonesta

    Monday, December 03 2012, 9:08PM

    “I bet they spend all their time telling ppl, 'stuff like that didnt hapopen in our day, ppl where more respectful'
    Yeah, Right”

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    by Grimsby81

    Monday, December 03 2012, 8:21PM

    “About time!! This couple have displayed disgusting behaviour over the years and as for it being a one sided story, maybe the Telegraph should interview other residents and previous neighbours of this couple who suffered the same abuse!!”

  • Profile image for Nobby_Nutcase

    by Nobby_Nutcase

    Monday, December 03 2012, 6:57PM

    “@ THEAPPLE

    I would have thought it was obvious to everybody who read my comment that it was a lighthearted mocking of the situation using the terminology usually aimed at youngsters but with references to the age of the couple. Evidently lost on you.”

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    by grimoldie

    Monday, December 03 2012, 6:00PM

    “"Hello Johnny and what makes your grandparents special?"

    "Please miss they are the oldest couple in the country to have a asbo against them, I am so proud of them both they should be a real inspiration to me my dad says.

    One day I want an asbo just like grandad."

    lol it could only happen in Grimsby. lol”

  • Profile image for MatQuinn

    by MatQuinn

    Monday, December 03 2012, 5:45PM

    “Oooooo look at her... Looks like a proper wrong 'un lol.

    Joking aside, they should thank the judge. Got off lightly.”

  • Profile image for THEAPPLE

    by THEAPPLE

    Monday, December 03 2012, 5:44PM

    “yes NOBBY they are pensioners ,therefore retired not unemployed and receiving a pension not scrounging,they are however rude obnoxtious people who should know better and I think if you follow their family lines I bet youd find more criminals.”

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