Judge says ‘Lock them up’! Grimsby magistrates blasted for not remanding defendants in custody
A JUDGE has criticised Grimsby magistrates for not remanding defendants in custody often enough – especially repeat offenders.
Judge Robert Moore launched his attack after hearing that a prolific offender had repeatedly been given bail, despite often committing new offences.
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JUDGE ROBERT MOORE: Visits Grimsby Crown Court several times a year.
He told Grimsby Crown Court: "Astonishing how often the local magistrates here do not remand in custody."
Judge Moore said the defendant was a "serial offender" and added that his criminal record was so bad that "you can't catch your breath really".
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He jailed the thief for a year for a string of offences, including breaching a community order imposed for burglary and theft.
During a previous visit to Grimsby Crown Court, Judge Moore's no-nonsense views – and his willingness to impose prison sentences – proved so popular on the Telegraph's website that he was widely praised by readers and there were calls for him to become Mayor. One comment read: "Judge Moore for Mayor".
He made headlines at the time by expressing amazement at supposedly lenient sentences imposed at Grimsby Crown Court – and asking during a case: "What does it take to get locked up at this court?"
Judge Moore is normally based at Sheffield Crown Court, but visits the Grimsby court several times a year.
Grimsby Magistrates' Court declined to comment on Judge Moore's remark.
It is believed, however, that figures are not kept by courts on issues related to the remand of defendants in custody.
It is regarded as an established principle that decisions on whether to grant bail are made on an individual basis depending on the circumstances of each case.
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by fruitus
Friday, March 22 2013, 5:04PM
“Pity he doesn't come here more often. A breath of fresh air. Now all we need is an effective police service to catch offenders.”
by tickledpink
Wednesday, March 13 2013, 1:33PM
“Wait! Let me get this straight.
I got clobbered for £70 summons fine from the council for being one day late with a couple of my Council Tax instalments.
Now I'm being told it's unlawful because of R -v- Grimsby Magistrates Ex. parte outlaw or whatever it is.
Do I get a refund or what?”
by P_Dauphine
Wednesday, March 13 2013, 9:15AM
“re;
R -v- Grimsby Magistrates Ex. parte outlaw [2013] EWHC
http://tinyurl.com/bx8pfyb
"...Clearly then, if the judgment in the Desouza v Croydon Magistrates' Court applies to liability order costs in Council Tax cases, the court doesn't have, and never has had, any power to award costs under section 64(1) of the Magistrates' Court Act 1980."”
by lashbaby
Tuesday, March 12 2013, 7:51PM
“Magistrate definition -knife sharp drawer !”
by lavapies
Tuesday, March 12 2013, 6:58PM
“What's this .... R -v- Grimsby Magistrates Ex. parte outlaw [2013] EWHC
http://tinyurl.com/accboq8
Decision under appeal.
The Magistrates sitting at the Grimsby Magistrates Court on the 2nd November 2012 granted a liability order, brought about by North East Lincolnshire Council. The matter concerned Council Tax and the liability order was made for a proportion (£60) of the Council's £70 summons costs. The level of costs were disputed at the hearing as unreasonable.
Question(s) for the High Court.
The questions focus on two principle points of law with regards regulation 34 of the Council Tax regulations (SI 1992/613). Those points being, whether
i) costs being disputed as unreasonable should have been awarded by the court without evidence from the council to support them.
ii) costs specifically incurred by the council for obtaining the liability order should have been charged at the summons issuing stage
Grounds of appeal.
i) The Council Tax (Administration and Enforcement) Regulations 1992 provide at regulation 34 for a billingauthority to recover its reasonably incurred costs in connection with liability order applications. The costs weredisputed on the grounds that hundreds of thousands of pounds awarded...”
by williewonky
Tuesday, March 12 2013, 6:55PM
“More Judge Moore please.
Grimsby needs gents like this who actually REALISE the difference between right and wrong.”
by Montgomery
Tuesday, March 12 2013, 5:50PM
“What's happend to the 3 and your out law? Give these scum pure heroin in big doses”
by offtheradar
Tuesday, March 12 2013, 4:02PM
“by harryX
http://tinyurl.com/cs8lnds
What's happining with this, any closer to a court case?”
by offtheradar
Tuesday, March 12 2013, 4:01PM
“by harryX
http://tinyurl.com/cs8lnds
What's happining with this, any closer to a court case?”
by gy82a
Tuesday, March 12 2013, 3:17PM
“phantom , magistraites can always pass the case up to crown court if they cant give a fitting and sever enough sentence so no excuse there”