Officer encourages drivers to take part in speed limit consultation

“HI WRANGLER,is it about DAWDLING along at 60 mph or is it about SPEEDING along at 70 mph.I cant understand your take on this.Also,normally on here when somebody has a pop at someones spelling mistakes it means they have lost the argument.(in your case a sore loser)PLEASED YOU`VE GONE GOODBYE”

“I think that the speed limits on the A180 and the A18 should remain at 60, given that a reduction to 50 will cause HGV to reduce their speed to 40 increasing the risks of dangerous overtaking.

I feel that the speed limits ought to be reduced on some of the residential streets where double parking is common place and the risk of injury to children crossing the roads is high. There also ought to be more effort made to Police 20 zones around schools in the mornings and evening's as within these zones the speed limit is rarely adhered too. The Police are missing out on a gold mine!

As for major routes through the town leave them well alone we need to keep traffic flowing!”

“I'm OUT, you say.

Well it looks as though I got my assessment right and I hope you are OUT if that means you're handing your licence in, which would be to the benefit of us all on the roads.

One 'clueless' less on the roads is reason to celebrate.”

“Well once you've Google it to find out what it means, its easier to copy and paste to get the correct spelling - derr!

I'm not sure I have ever seen a post before containing so many WRONG's

In the words of Duncan Bannatyne:

"You clearly have no idea what you are talking about and are too dim witted to enter into a debate with - its like banging my head against a brick wall, which is where I hope you end up in your car after a drunk driver takes you out having failed to realise ' blah blah blah, it's all about thinking distance' - I'm OUT"”

“@Wrangler, Sedgepeat's knight in gleaming wasted horsepower.

No, you don't understand but will always spout the same old rhetoric but endorsing (think about it) what I've written. Get the speed down, as has been the case on the Laceby Bypass and accident rates will come down. Leave it to the police and the sensible drivers to deal with the ignorant and atrocious on our roads.

Your stereotypical boy racers are not the problem, I think I barely see any. However, I see through my rearview mirror plenty of a group to which I think you belong and that is the pot bellied, grey and balding tailgating know-alls, who've spent most of their retirement package buying wasted horsepower. They struggle with a supermarket trolley but then think they should be allowed to drive without inhibition because they've paid for it. Just think that their top of the range braking systems are wasted as their thinking distance increases along with the porosity of their brain tissue and that is so evident on our roads today as is the slow thinking of the educationally challenged who spout on this forum with 'empty headed authority'.

It's a good job the road traffic engineers are switched on though eh.

I don't want to go on 'ad nauseam' but you don't even get the boring stuff you continually spout right……..Yawn.”

“@2011

Enough already with the thinking and breaking distance thing - it is, for the most part, completely irrelevant and the fact that you cannot see that is most disturbing.

Yes everybody understands the concept, its very simple and self evident, but it is not applicable to 80-90% of the accidents which are driver error.

Driver error is not about thinking time or breaking distance (persay), its about poor education of roadcraft, its about lack of concentration, its about falling into bad habits whilst driving, its about distractions inside and outside the car, its about not observing the current road condition, its about lack of focus, its about being in a rush, its about being impatient, etc.

How is it relevant for all the single vehicle crashes where people are driving too fast for the road or road conditions?

How is it relevant for the person texting on the mobile phone, who is not even watching the road?

How is it relevant for the intoxicated or drugged?

How is it relevant for the boy racers (and I include the growing number of girls in that category)?

Ad Nausium...

Yawn!”

“@Sedgepeat

You're all bluster, go on, admit it, you are incapable of mastering the concept of 'Thinking Distance' aren't you and there lies the problem with the driving on our roads.

Road safety needs to be firmly in the hands of the road traffic engineers because they are intelligent."”

“'Intelligent' Muff? Oh what degree teaches expert driving, dealing with accidents, reporting them and prosecuting them? Also add, in my case, fully indentured motor engineer and motorcyclist too so always professionally involved with driving & vehicles. But how does a Highways Engineer decide driving issues exactly? He should stick to designing roads and layouts. In any case he will not be prosecuting so specialist police should satisfy for themselves before doing so. In any case most limits are in response to parochialism and loca politics. How can we have a national infrastructure governed by parochialism & local aspiration anyway?

John Siddle of Lincolnshire Road Safety Partnership blurted out on BBC Humberside in response to me, that he has no idea how the limits are set 'it is not the police's function'. So police are pointing cameras, prosecuting people, sending them on coercive courses, run by private companies for profit with other non-expert tutors who do not tell the truth on the subject and and have no idea why they are doing it! You think all this deception is fine do you?

Why shouldn't police make a point of doing speed limit surveys in their area to satisfy themselves that a prosecution is just.

Yes I ignore the red. Who can argue about how a queue is formed, the offence of ignoring it and that it will lead to overtake scenarios. Only fools will make red from that self evident observation. That they do so at the expense of good road safety is a matter for their conciences.”

“Get rid of air bags, get rid of seat belts, get rid of ABS, remove the safety cells and ABS.

Stick a 12" razor sharp metal spike in the centre of everyone's steering wheel and see how fast people decide to drive for themselves!”

“Spot on Sedgepeat!

Ignore the red, it just mean you have muff etal against the ropes and undertaking multiple votes.”