“This is a situation that has been blown out of proportion and i feel very sorry for everyone involved. Yes it was a postition of trust, but these girls weren't stupid and knew what they were doing. The ones, in my eyes, who have schemed and 'groomed' are the girls to Karl. They too should hang their heads in shame, flaunting themselves at their age, they should of been brought up better to have some more self worth. Im not saying he wasnt guilty, just that he ends up on the wrong side of the law when it comes to situations like this. They weren't 9/10, where they become intimidated, they knew what they were doing, and became candy to a child. I can imagine the type of girls they will grow up to be.

It is also ashame for Karls family now ruined for life and will always worry about other peoples views (just read this thread and imagine being his family, some of the comments are vile and just plain out of order) and his child will grow up into an unfair world!”

“my daughter goes to havelock,and has told me that the girls in question were falling over them selves to sleep with the teacher in question.
yes he did break the law and needed punishing,but what about a little self control from the teenage girls?”

“anon, twice i have posted explaining that i was not refering to this case, but one that could have been brought against me if it hadnt all been caught on cctv and audio.... and twice it has been removed by The Daily Mail controlled GRIMsby Telegraph.”

“Plutonium, I apologise to you.

My views on the death penalty may go a bit to far.
I originally was against any form of capital punishment, until I started reading what some of these defendants had done to their victims.
Years down the line after reading books about Hangmen like Pierrepoint/Dernley etc, it has become fascinating.
When I read about Ian Huntley/ Moors Murders/ shipman/ I can't say I would have any mercy on them, I would quite happily send them to the gallows.

I believe in State executions on murderers like the above, I don't like people who think they can hurt or torture and kill another human being, and, like Huntley, get a comfortable cell, then complain when he is mistreated, he killed two little girls, what does the sick perv expect?

I have not been a witness to an execution, the trouble with people is they seem to get all irate about a driver slightly over the drink drive limit , or slightly speeding etc,and want them put in prison for life, for making a stupid decision but a paedophile or murderer, when people like me says they should be put to death, then I am accused of being sick.”

“Andy, here....who the hell are you to say they are false allegations, if a judge and jury found him guilty there was clearly enough evidence to do so, the justice system works that someone can only be found guilty if there is enough evidence to prove that within any reasonable doubt that these crimes were committed and i think you'll find that it was an decision they all came to very quickly. therefore any proof he tried to put forward that these things didn¿t happen 'ruining his career by telling everyone he was touching her up' was found by the jury to be a lie. Once again if you weren't there you don't know!”

“Neil, I do not defend people like this...I simply dont agree with your methods for disposing of them.

You may be robust in your clamouring for justice, which I applaud, but we are all entitled to our opinions, and mine differ to yours. But that doesnt mean I support peadophilia and it is rather sly of you to suggest that.

Peadophiles are the sickest of the sick. They are very dangerous people. Very able manipulators and very hard to see for what they realy are.

Your original description for killing them was full of slow very painful deaths which you described with such details that I thought (OMG youve already tried this on some one)....I could almost see you rubbing your hands together in utter delight at the thought of the agonising slow death throes that would see them off to their maker....and as Andy pointed out, this great glee at such a death made us feel as sick as the act of peadophilia itself.”

“anon wrote "unless any of you where there when these crimes were committed, unless you were on the receiving end of his grooming, or unless you knew his intentions and thoughts do you really think your opinions are valid"

Yes, yes i do!
and if you'd ever been on the recieving end of false allegations where someone underage tells you that if you dont agree to do what they want, then they will ruin your career by saying that you've been touching them up, then you would think your opinion was valid too! Thank heavens for CCTV with audio recording facilities...... you know what does make my blood boil though? hearing a police officer giving you the "advice" not to follow up with a lawsuit as yours would be the only name printed in the red top newspapers for all and sundry to get the wrong idea and get all self righteous about.”

“neil, im really not condoning this behaviour, but nor am i falling for the thought control processes of the media...look into all of the facts,not the ones that money hungry newspapers print...check the court transcripts..the 2 girls he denied all the charges against were not pupils at his school... they also said he never had sex with them, and ask the "news" paper to print ALL the facts from this case. Learn to question authority ..... we are a country controlled by the media!”

“this stoy is confsing me now.....2 threads of the same story is just too much....I'm not repeating everything.....the other one has some rather heated conversation going on so i think i'll leave it at this.
The bloke was the adult....the kids just that....KIDS....he should have taken to adult role and said the word NO....he was wrong....he got pnished thank god...lets hope he serves his full sentence which would make a change for this kind of thing”

“Just so you know,Josh. THAT Neil,Cleethorpes is not me. Just look for a 2 in the address. Yes,I am pro EU,very PC and extremely aware of my responsibilities. His views are not mine,although I often agree with them.”