“Well spotted What. 100 homes tops.
Dale has been guilty of bigging-up then numbers before and hauled over hot coals (no CO2 emitted - pardon the pun) by the ASA, where he bigged up the numbers at Swaffham windfarm in 2005 and violating truthfulness requirements in a direct-mail ad campaign this year.

http://www.asa.org.uk/Complaints-and-ASA-action/Adjudications/2010/2/Ecotricity-Ltd/TF_ADJ_48089.aspx
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/02/17/ecotricity_asa_slap/

The 'hippy' wind farm tycoon receiving millions in subsidies
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/energy/windpower/7840036/The-hippy-wind-farm-tycoon-receiving-millions-in-subsidies.html

When is this madness going to stop. The subsidy ¿ known as the Renewable Obligation Certificate (ROC) system ¿ was put in place by nuLabour to encourage energy companies to invest in renewable energy. But as with many nuLabour schemes the haven't thought things through because the levy is overly generous and is encouraging a rapid growth of wind turbines in some of premium stretches of countryside. The ROC subsidy which is now showing that it is prone to abuse by sharp practive business folks to milk taxpayers leading to wind farms being built in areas where the wind is not necessarily that strong. Now we have useless solar panels.”

“An number of points please!

Please, please please GET, stop being Dale Vince's inadvertent puppet and printing his wildly inaccurate propaganda - please print a balanced scientific story.

1MW feeding 500 homes? - That is only 2kW per home - my kettle is 1.8kW! According to the UK electrical suppliers web site, Lincolnshire residents use on average 3.9 - 4.2.kW, now lets be optimistic and assume it will be running at 50% throughout the year (not 100%, 100% of the time) - we are now down to only 100ish homes.

Likewise Dale's windfarm has not been supplying 12,000 homes, more like 3000-4000.

Dale always reads these comments (and sometimes responds) and despite numerous request to publish the figures and assumptions he uses, he refuses, simply saying that the figures are 'sound !'

Dale also never mentions the amount of money that he is receiving in government grants and carbon credits, that have turned him into a multi millionaire - This is not about being green!

He also refuses to publish the actual generation figures so we can verify his claims.

We should pass this planning, why not! But we should include as a condition of the planning that the actual energy generation figures need to be published and that there be a hefty, per unit fine on every unit of electricity he is short from his predictions.

Oh and can I check that he has used an industrial planning request and not been allowed to get away with a domestic application as for the wind farm.

Come on Dale, please show us your figures, is it too much to ask!”

“Ah - I suspect Pensioner of Immingham's mate Dale is filling his boots up with ROC money to fund his SL500 or was it a 600 - no matter a very nice fast car. So poor pensioners can offset his carbon footprint by buying solar and wind electricity.

One of the problems to supply solar electricity is that it is not well matched to demand. In Britain, demand reaches its peak in winter. There's a surge of generation in the summer, during the middle of the day, and not much in the winter. While solar panels may supply <1% of our electricity, the size and inefficiency of the energy storage (banks of submarine type batteries with DC2AC converters) and standby power systems required makes solar power ineffective to the point it won't make a difference to CO2 emissions but a very good money spinner with ROC.”

“I have solar hot water at my home. Since April this year my central heating boiler has been turned off, as the radiators do not demand heat and its unlikely to be turned back on again until approx October. Yet we still have as much hot water for washing as we need and no gas bills. Solar panels contain nitrix glycerine that heats up much quicker than water, so a winter sun light they still activate! Think of no gas bills for April to October for the real savings!”

“Her in Sunny Regina I look at the Grimsby weather every day. I note that very frequently the sun is not shining. Without bright sunshine Photo voltaic cell produce little or no energy. Grimsby is pretty far north therefore in the winter the sun is not there. It is the very time when the energy is needed. Solar energy in the gloomy north is a total waste of money. It is even worse than the other lemon Wind Power.”

“.. .. however, I for one am all for green features to be included in all new builds”

“Another exclusive reveal by GET.. .. .. .. oh hang on the planning application ( submitted 13 Aug 10) is available for all to see on ELDC's planning website

;¬)”

“"The Conisholme wind park has been making green electricity for about 12,000 homes each year since 2008."

Have any of these 12,000 homes seen a significant reduction in there electricity bills? I bet the short answer is NO.

Why do we not insist that ALL new build houses are automatically fitted with solar panels?”

“It would be rather expensive,Josh. YOU are the one who produces strange amounts for overseas aid. If the pensioner moves,who helps pay for it? Me. I do not mind within reason. Do you?”

“I like the statement that the energy used to create the solar panels is predicted to be two years.
Quite misleading, a lot of people could read as two years for the whole installation.
I priced this installation for my house and the break even point for installation was 18 years by that time or before I would need to replace the solar panel therefore staring all over again.
I also think the claims of power produced are completely exagerated, I am sorry but this is a con.”