Time is running out for Lincoln Castle steamer as dismantling of vessel begins

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Friday, July 02, 2010
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GRIMSBY landmark, the Lincoln Castle, is in the process of being dismantled – leading campaigners to step up their efforts to save the vessel, saying it is now of "international importance".

Demolition company H Cope And Sons started what is believed to be the first stage of taking apart the 70-year-old Lincoln Castle paddle steamer yesterday.

However, protesters are today due to gather at the dock side in the hope of stalling the work, in a last ditch to save the paddle steamer.

Yesterday, as metal fences appeared around the site and work began on what is believed to stripping hazardous materials from the ship, NELC confirmed the paddle steamer is to scrapped.

Colin Johnson, the owner of the Lincoln Castle, is footing the bill. However, he was unavailable for comment.

For more on this story, including comments from the protestors and NELC, see today's Grimsby Telegraph.

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    by Dean Jackling, East Yorkshire.

    Sunday, July 04 2010, 6:59PM

    “We need to save this piece of Humber history.simple as...I kinda see Mr Johnsons predicament-its not saleable or profitable as is,but give it away to the preservation society and let the people who love it sort it out-Go down as the person who helped save the last one-or as the man who killed it? I know which one i'd rather be.and whatever he thinks of it now-it touched a lot of peoples lives.”

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    by A Grimlander, GRIMLAND the divided

    Sunday, July 04 2010, 10:55AM

    “Younger person -- Grimsby:

    I've been 'high-fived' by people less than a quarter of my age 'up town' in the pasrt week over my stance concerning the 'Lincoln Castle'.

    I can also spell.

    Maybe you should take your own advice and read the relevant comments. The age matter did not concern youth per se. Read, mark learn and inwardly digest.

    Du U stil uz the sayin gettagrip?”

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    by Younger person, grimsby

    Sunday, July 04 2010, 10:42AM

    “You have to be old to understand or care about something???. One thing I though this world had but a stop to was people like you acting as if your above someone simply because your older. If someone has an opinion about something they are free to voice it whenever and however they like. And just because you don't like it or agree doesn't give you a right to demand where someone got there imformation from. Just leave people alone if you dont agree and have a need to argue your boring point then don't read comments. Or maybe your too old to understand todays society!”

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    by A.Grimlander, GRIMLAND the doubtful

    Saturday, July 03 2010, 7:42PM

    “Christopher -- it's not personal; it's merely professional interest. Below a certain age a person can't have worked on or used the 'Wingfield Castle' the 'Tattershall Castle' and the 'Lincoln Castle' in their orginal form and in their original service.

    The 'Tattershall Castle' I have travelled many times and have used in its previous berths and formats on the Thames when I worked in Essex -st and Stamford-st (within earshot and 'eyeshot' of the river) on maritime matters. Also visited the three in various other berths from Hartlepool to the Medway. "The Tatty Cas" is getting less and less the 'Tattershall Castle' -- like my my 'Viking' axe with three new heads and five new handles approaches being the original!

    A qualified opinion is one gained from personal experience and original documentation. Therefore when I ask for 'qualification' I merely seek an acceptable source for the opinion. For example, more people think the three vessels referred to above are sister-ships than don't. This doesn't make it right, of course -- and it isn't.

    When one has read the orginal outline specifications, the memoranda relating to the concepts and purposes, the detailed specifications, the general arragement drawings, the tendder comparisons and the diaries of the people concerned, one tends to get some understanding of functions and locations in the vessels' operations.

    As a matter of fact, Sisapon, J.F. Wood spent more time in Glasgow than he did in Grimsby during the construction of the 'Lincoln Castle', but it doesn't make him a Glaswegian! And the Lincoln Castle's home port AND port of registry were of course the same -- as David O. points out, the vessel's significance is as much due to its overall role in north east Lincolnshire's unique transport system as its position as the last coal-fired paddle steamer to operate a scheduled service. This is its importance to Grimland just as its future role would have been -- and it wasn't to be, as someone wrote in a previous commentary: "Another floating bar & restaurant -- trif!"”

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    by Christopher, Grimsby

    Saturday, July 03 2010, 6:20PM

    “A.Grimlander - what has age got to do with anything? Why do I need qualifications to make an informed opinion? I am not the one having to resort to cheap insults to try and put my point across by describing those who disagree with me as "thick" and as not having travelled. I have a vested interest in our local history and have an extensive collection of books and films on the matter.

    The Lincoln Castle has been in trouble for years. If people were that bothered, why has it taken so long for them to try and do something about it? Where is the website, the registered charity number, the fundraisers, the petitions? People are happy to sit back, do nothing and accept the status quo. Only when it becomes too late will they actually attempt to do something and the extent of that is usually just moaning on message boards such as this.

    As previously stated, I am all in favour of preserving the historical heritage of our town, but I do not see any evidence that suggests the Lincoln Council warrants such attention and I am not in favour of public money being spent on something that I see as being financially unsustainable. If a trust or group or private individual can raise the funds to buy it themselves and pay for the restoration and additional running costs, then good luck to them.

    In another post, you describe the PS Tattershall Castle, currently moored on the River Thames, as a travesty of its former self. It is currently under use as a floating bar and restaurant and recently underwent a refit costing several million pounds. If the PS Lincoln Castle was to survive, it would in all likelihood have to go the same way.”

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