“get rid of all the police staff above the Chief Constable, by that would save some dosh.”

“Roy states that 20 officers have been "lost" this year in cost cutting measures....
"Workforce Modernisation" under Andy Oliver has been doing just this for the last few years, gradually minimising the number of serving officers with powers of arrests only to be replaced by cheaper PCSO's.
Divert the cash used by trendy but totally inaffectual schemes like the Family Intervention Project (where future ASBO holders receive cinema tickets for attending school) to put more officers back on our streets.”

“Roy, Bankrupt Britain:

If criminals, especially repeat offenders were controlled, preferably locked up, we wouldn't need half the police we've got now!

It is ridiculous that the legal gravy train and probationary services prosper by keeping criminals in circulation to offend repeatedly! Use draconian restrictions on offenders and reduce the police force. Some offenders commit multiple single handed crime waves taking up police resources.......simples lock them up for the second offence until they reform.

The police helicopter is absolutely essential......no argument.”

“(apologies if this is off topic .. but this needs saying)

Observer wrote: "Its strange how in times of perceived financial stress compassion goes out of the window for many people. What's wrong with helping people out in other countries?"

Firstly, for many people here the current 'financial stress' is not merely 'perceived' .. it's real. And secondly, I don't believe anyone here is seriously against 'helping people out in other countries'. What they quite rightly object to is their money (either individual donations or their taxes) being used to pay the (not insubstantial) salaries and pensions of fat-cat bureaucrats and the army of paper-shuffling minions who are currently employed by the Department of International Development.

I would imagine too, that everyone here also rail against their money being used to prop up tyrannical regimes which care only about staying in power and who give not one jot for the plights of their own people. Neither do I believe the Department for International Development gives a damn either - much of their work involves cutting deals with dictators and furthering and protecting the agendas of both the vested interests of global corporations, and international bodies working tirelessly towards a 'New World Order'.

Furthermore, a huge chunk of their budget isn't even being spent abroad. Over the past 5 years £45.5 million was spent on various 'diversity' and 'awareness' programmes here in the UK!

(quote: "The majority of these DfID funded projects are little more than brainwashing aimed at schoolchildren, including preschoolers, with aims like crafting 'global citizens'." )
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/7228534/50m-of-Governments-international-aid-budget-spent-in-the-UK.html

If overseas aid is actually going to work, then the DfID should be abolished altogether and the monies given straight to established charities who will make sure those who really need the help - actually damn-well gets it.”

“Surely its the Police Helicopter that has to go before anything else ? Just think of how much could be saved. Write it off against the Humberside Polices Carbon Foot Print. Pip.. Pip..”

“Don't panic

All these cuts are unnecessary if they reintroduce the dog tax that they're talking about.

The RSPCA estimates a licensing scheme could deliver resources worth more than £107.4 million to improve dog welfare.

Well the RSPCA specifies "Dog Welfare" but I'm sure the government can divert the resources to a cause of its choice.”

“The cuts facing the police across the entire country look horrendous...at a time when we need far MORE police on the streets, not less.

Yes, there may be some efficency savings to be made here and there, but they are just a drop in the ocean compared to the huge cuts being proposed.

Cambridgeshire police are similar in size to Humberside, and their retiring Chief Constable has just been quoted as saying the police "may be forced to deal only with 999 calls"

Quote..."Julie Spence is retiring from the force on Sunday and has spoken out over government plans to cut its budget by up to 40%.

The force faces £33m cuts over the next four years.

"It would be Armageddon. The police service that you see today would not be the police service that you would see in the future," Mrs Spence said.

In the short term the force must cut £9m from its £130m budget by next April - the equivalent of 220 police officers.

Mrs Spence said she feared the police service could be left with "an anorexic front line".

More than 20 police staff have already been made redundant as part of saving measures for this year.

The deputy constable John Feavyour has previously estimated £33m budget cuts over the next four years would equate to losing the whole police staff or 1,100 officers.........."

As the cuts are expected to be similar across the whole of the country, where will that leave us in a socially deprived town such as Grimsby?”

“Cliff...."Policing seems to have become more of a desk job in recent years and so let's see them levered from their desks and out and about for a change if PCSOs are going".....

With respect Cliff, the story is about civilian staff being slashed from their support roles...the jobs which they are currently undertaking won't just no longer need to be done, with the wave of some magic wand!...Those jobs will then all have to be done by police officers instead!...so common sense surely dictates that the outcome will be MORE officers tied to desks, and LESS officers out on the streets.”

“I am neither "glorious,fascist or a dictator",Baron. However,I really detest right wing,full of twaddle planks who have not got a clue. By the way Josh. You STILL have not told me your source of the £800bn figure. I can do finance. Afraid to get "shot down in flames"?”

“Its strange how in times of perceived financial stress compassion goes out of the window for many people.

What's wrong with helping people out in other countries? Having seen the recent scenes from Pakistan and what the ordinary people have to suffer I have no objection to my tax money being used to help those poor people out. The majority of them hadn't got much before the floods and now they have nothing but what they stand up in. You can hardly compare the situation in the UK with what they are going through.”