Councillors taken on tour of roads which could have speed limits cut

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Wednesday, February 13, 2013
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COUNCILLORS hit the roads of North East Lincolnshire yesterday as part of their review of speed limits across the borough.

Chauffeured by Humberside Police casualty reduction officer PC Barry Gardner, members of the speed limit select committee were taken on a tour of the roads which could have their speed limits cut.

  1. Ready to hit the road:  Members of the speed limit select committee, pictured before heading around the roads of North East Lincolnshire. Pictured outside the Grimsby Town Hall are, from left, Councillor Karl Watson, chairman, Councillor Andrew DeFreitas, Claire Ward, scrutiny adviser, Miguel D'souza, road safety engineer for Balfour Beatty, Dave Poucher, principal traffic engineer for Balfour Beatty, Councillor Jane Hyldon-King, Councillor Philip Jackson, Councillor Terry Thurogood, and PC Barry Gardner, Humberside Police casualty reduction officer.  Pictures: Rick Byrne

    Ready to hit the road: Members of the speed limit select committee, pictured before heading around the roads of North East Lincolnshire. Pictured outside the Grimsby Town Hall are, from left, Councillor Karl Watson, chairman, Councillor Andrew DeFreitas, Claire Ward, scrutiny adviser, Miguel D'souza, road safety engineer for Balfour Beatty, Dave Poucher, principal traffic engineer for Balfour Beatty, Councillor Jane Hyldon-King, Councillor Philip Jackson, Councillor Terry Thurogood, and PC Barry Gardner, Humberside Police casualty reduction officer. Pictures: Rick Byrne

  2. Making tracks:  The  40mph speed restrictions which are currently in place at the entrance to Aylesby.

    Making tracks: The 40mph speed restrictions which are currently in place at the entrance to Aylesby.

It included a trip along the A18 Barton Street between Laceby Top roundabout and the boundary with East Lindsey, near Ludborough, where the council is proposing to cut the limit from 60mph to 50mph.

Also on the itinerary was the section of the A180 between the Pyewipe and Lockhill roundabouts, where the speed limit could be reduced from 70mph to 50mph.

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The other roads visited were:

Nooking Lane/Main Road, Aylesby (40mph to 30mph)

B1210 Healing (40mph to 30mph)

B1210 between Healing and Great Coates (60mph to 40 mph)

A1136 between Great Coates roundabout and Europarc

Non-strategic roads in the East Marsh ward (30mph to 20mph)

Non-strategic roads in the Sidney Sussex ward (30mph to 20mph)

For the past few weeks, the select committee has heard evidence from various motoring organisations, highways engineers, psychologists and ward councillors.

Chairman of the panel, Councillor Karl Wilson (Lab, Heneage) said: "We have heard the evidence and listened to people's opinions. This is our chance to actually see the roads for ourselves."

Councillor Philip Jackson (Con, Waltham), who has consistently questioned the effectiveness of a "blanket" speed limit, used the tour to suggest alternative measures of making the A18 safer to drive.

He said: "There should be more areas where it is clearly indicated that it is dangerous to overtake by having solid white lines in the middle of the road.

"This would also have the additional effect of making the road feel narrower, which tends to make drivers go a bit slower."

The select committee is due to meet again on Thursday, March 7.

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  • Profile image for Me_Out_Here

    by Me_Out_Here

    Saturday, February 16 2013, 5:17PM

    “In the interests of fairness, they need to be taken on the same route doing the posted speeds as they stand. They can then see what a waste of time and money their proposals are. They will also have a chance to experience the unacceptable state of the roads that the money could be spent repairing instead of slowing us all down.......”

  • Profile image for LacebyLad

    by LacebyLad

    Thursday, February 14 2013, 7:38PM

    “Why is the A46 Laceby road between Crowland Avenue and Winchester Avenue not considered for a speed reduction. After all, the camera van is in this location on such a regular basis that you would assume this is the most dangerous stretch of road in the area wouldnt you?”

  • Profile image for porcelainblak

    by porcelainblak

    Wednesday, February 13 2013, 10:06PM

    “They live round here, so why the hell do they have to be "chauffered" round to look at roads? Why are they trying to make them look like royalty?

    Waste of time, waste of money, just a waste . . .”

  • Profile image for BaWSox

    by BaWSox

    Wednesday, February 13 2013, 6:32PM

    “You complain about and mock these councillors but you voted for them!”

  • Profile image for davendogs

    by davendogs

    Wednesday, February 13 2013, 6:02PM

    “Anoraks comes to mind. Pull the same trip again, different time, different driver.”

  • Profile image for reaper_grim

    by reaper_grim

    Wednesday, February 13 2013, 4:23PM

    “biggest load of 'bobbins' that a reduction in speed limits will make our roads safer! Lower limits are ALL about the environment, as any car does a better mpg at 56mph than 75mph like they used to be measured in!

    At slower speeds you see more on the phone inc texting.

    What will MAKE ROAD SAFER is when EVERYONE accepts road safety is THEIR RESPONSIBILITY and airbags, abs, a high euroncap rating on your car doesn't make you infallible to an accident. THE SAFEST DEVICE IN A VEHICLE IS YOU!”

  • Profile image for davel60

    by davel60

    Wednesday, February 13 2013, 3:05PM

    “I thought I had seen all the "Carry On" films...”

  • Profile image for hardy202

    by hardy202

    Wednesday, February 13 2013, 1:58PM

    “the one in healing were they want to change it from 40 to 30 is a waste of time because it is already suppose to be 30”

  • Profile image for seadog

    by seadog

    Wednesday, February 13 2013, 1:09PM

    “where do they get COUNCILLORS they look like they fell out a funny farm”

  • Profile image for BobathSmith

    by BobathSmith

    Wednesday, February 13 2013, 12:10PM

    “Wybers_Willy, you have hit the nail on the head with your comment. I completely agree with you and so does most of the public (the ones with half a brain anyway). The only person in the photo who seems to have an ounce of intelligence is Councillor Philip Jackson. The rest of them need to get in the real world. Speed is not the problem, the standard of driving is. Why should we all suffer painfully slow speed limits on safe roads because of a few incompetent fools/idiots?”

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