Call for the brakes to be put on speed plan for North East Lincolnshire

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Saturday, February 18, 2012
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A CAMPAIGNER is calling for the people of North East Lincolnshire to "stand up, be counted" and join his drive to improve traffic flow across the borough.

Hayden Dawkins, 46, of Forest Way, Humberston, is today launching a petition calling for proposals to cut speed limits on major and minor roads in North East Lincolnshire to be put on hold and for a full review of traffic flow to be undertaken.

  1. GO WITH FLOW:   Hayden Dawkins, pictured on the side of the A180, has launched a petition calling for proposals to cut speed limits on roads in North East Lincolnshire to be out on hold. Inset, how the Telegraph previously reported the speed cuts story. Rick Byrne. Buy  photos at www.thisisphotosales.co.uk/grimsby or by contacting 08444 060910

    GO WITH FLOW: Hayden Dawkins, pictured on the side of the A180, has launched a petition calling for proposals to cut speed limits on roads in North East Lincolnshire to be out on hold. Inset, how the Telegraph previously reported the speed cuts story. Rick Byrne. Buy photos at www.thisisphotosales.co.uk/grimsby or by contacting 08444 060910

As reported, North East Lincolnshire Council has announced plans for a £500,000 scheme that it hopes will reduce accidents by slowing traffic on roads from the A180 to residential streets such as Brereton Avenue.

However, the plans have proved to be controversial, with many readers of the Grimsby Telegraph calling for NELC to think again.

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Mr Dawkins aims to use his campaign to force the council to set up a working group of councillors, highways experts and residents to review the plans and address issues with traffic flow across the borough.

The proposals have also been "called in" by the local Conservative group, which means they will be brought before a scrutiny meeting for further discussion, although the date for the meeting is yet to be set.

In the meantime, Mr Dawkins is calling for you to get behind his campaign, saying that he believes "now is the time to make the councillors sit up and listen to the people they serve".

He said: "Traffic flow in this town is horrendous. What they need to do is get traffic to run smoothly.

"I am not against the 20mph zones around schools, but I think that with some of the other proposals, there would be far better ways of spending £500,000.

"On some of the residential streets they want to make 20mph, it's impossible to go any quicker than that anyway because of the parked cars down each side. There just isn't a problem, so why impose these measures?

"What they need to address is traffic flow in and out of the towns. If traffic keeps moving, there is a perception that you are getting somewhere and people are less likely to get frustrated and speed."

He called for NELC to investigate imposing systems already in place in Germany, where traffic lights are set up in such a way that, if you hit the first in a series of lights on green – provided you don't exceed the speed limit – you will get straight through them all.

He also said work needed to be done to prevent bottle-necks, such as the junction with Pasture Street and Hainton Avenue, adding that he believed there had to be a more efficient way of getting traffic into the town centre from the eastern side of town.

He said: "It used to be that you could go straight down Pasture Street and into town. Now you get stuck at four sets of lights."

Councillor Steve Norton (Con, Humberston and New Waltham) said he had spoken to Mr Dawkins and that as the Conservative group had already called in the proposals, a select committee could be formed to look at this issues he had raised.

He said: "It could be that we ask for a select committee to be set up to review traffic management across the borough, at which point members of the public could be called to give their views."

Have your say:

What do you think? E-mail your views to newsdesk@grimsbytelegraph.co.uk. If you would like your comment to be added to Mr Dawkins' petition, make sure you include your name and address.

Also see Viewpoint P14.

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  • Profile image for 40mph

    by 40mph

    Saturday, January 12 2013, 8:28PM

    “The 40 MPH speed limit for trucks on single track roads is under review by the government.

    Please look for information about this on government website and make your thoughts heard by 1 Feb. Or look for the site I have created for more background on this issue.”

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    by haribo9999

    Tuesday, February 28 2012, 4:27PM

    “where do I sign x”

  • Profile image for MRJ70

    by MRJ70

    Friday, February 24 2012, 7:30PM

    “If we must have 20 mph signs, can they be the flashing signs that show actual speed and instruction to slow if the limit is exceeded. The signs and limits could be set to operate at agreed school times and there is no necessity for them to operate at weekends and during school holidays. The flahing signs are very good at reminding you that you are above the set limit.

    The 20 mph sign in Chichester Road going towards the sea is barely visible and one is only reminded of the limit when it is increased to 30 mph. Chichester Road is a disgrace anyway - the surface gives a very rough ride at any speed and this is a major thoroughfare.”

  • Profile image for davendogs

    by davendogs

    Thursday, February 23 2012, 10:33PM

    “I'm not so sure a roundabout would work on your first example. It would be compromised by that runoff toward the river head. Plus you have some large vehicles to contend with, busses, hgv's. By the time a sizeable roundabout was in place it would curtail the number of lanes. Then there is the need for pedestrian crossings. They would have to be shifted yet still be light controlled. I think it would defeat the objective.”

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    by Intolerant

    Thursday, February 23 2012, 9:04PM

    “Talking of traffic turning left...........what about the "non" filter systems on Frederick Ward Way? How the hell are people meant to turn left next to the old Allied store into Victoria St, or left onto Peakes Parkway at the filters when there's no room to do so.
    The Allied corner needs widening as does the corner at Queen St, just what is the idea of the large, unused, fenced off area of flagstones anyway, get rid and give open access to the Parkway filter.
    Better still, get rid of the lights and install a roundabout, the same goes for Hainton Square.”

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    by billyboy13

    Thursday, February 23 2012, 2:38PM

    “A big taffic problem in Grimsby is Peakes Parkway, when passing traffic lights, drivers trying to pass one another, trying to squeeze the other out. Make the inside lane for traffic turning left, to stop this nonsense. It is sad to say, most of these idiots are women, which I do not understand, because I find that in general, women are usually careful considerate drivers.”

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    by davendogs

    Thursday, February 23 2012, 6:51AM

    “I thought you were doing quite well Intolerant, then you suggested speed bumps. Grimsby Road is certainly a impediment. It began with the fetish for road narrowing. No allowance for pull ins for buses has been afforded. Most of the stops are on top of lights or junctions. The buses often turn up two at a time. Overtaking is few and far between, then you need a sharp eye and wits about you. The stretch from Ramsdens to the old Humber pub, now that could do with a speed increase.”

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    by Intolerant

    Wednesday, February 22 2012, 10:16PM

    “I live in Cleethorpes and can drive around fairly unimpeded, apart from the unofficial traffic "calmers" or bus stops opposite traffic islands, which cause needless tailbacks and congestion.
    However, the same can't be said for Grimsby which is a total nightmare.
    The major difference in the two is the ridiculous amount of traffic lights in Grimsby.
    All that happens when people are delayed in tailbacks is that they try to make up lost time when they get through them.
    No matter what the holier than thou brigade say, its human nature, they've probably done it themselves when delayed for work or an appointment.
    The thing to do is replace most of the lights with roundabouts, mini or otherwise, maybe with a couple of speed bumps leading up to the mini ones to dissuade the boy racers.
    As well as free flowing traffic it would also save a fortune in the running costs of traffic lights and cut the pollution from standing traffic.”

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    by Kerfuddled

    Wednesday, February 22 2012, 1:17PM

    “There are so many spots in this town where traffic bottle neck and queue and don't need to. How many times do you sit at traffic lights (at large junctions that could take a roundabout) and there isn't a car in sight? New Waltham "bypass??" - look at it at peak times - you walk down there quicker because some clown changed the width and the lane directions at Toll Bar and cause massive backlogs. A46 is just crazy - it you can manage to do 30mph and then 40mph on a long straight dual carriageway you can guarantee someone is about 2foot behind you or overtaking making it difficult for you to get into the lane to go to Morrisons when you want to.

    The temporary lights on Scartho Road at Scartho Baths fill me with gloom. I guess they are going to be made permanent and I can sit there for a few more minutes every day with no traffic moving just waiting for a green light watching the queues grow on one of the main routes through town. Another accident waiting to happen are the lane markings there at the petrol station because it looks like the left hand lane is now left hand turn only so if you are driving correctly you should get in the right hand lane and move into the left after the junction but no.....cars sit in the left and go straight on and cars in the right have to try and get in (that is of course outside the bus lane times).

    This town needs controlled traffic flow (that's FLOW). If main routes move like they were supposed to people wouldn't feel the need to go racing around the smaller residential streets trying to beat the blooming traffic. They would get off those streets as soon as they could for an easier, safer and in an ideal world, quicker journey thus making the residential areas safer.”

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    by jasonoldy

    Wednesday, February 22 2012, 8:51AM

    “This joker needs to stop wasting our time and money. Slower speeds will not stop dangerous drivers, it only frustrates those inocently getting from A to B.”

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