“A carbon footprint gadget probably made in China and exported half way across the world.

Anyway, if the human population increases and more developing nations industrialise, and developed countries keep on buying electrical goods there will be more requirement for energy, not less.

As far as low carbon emission electrical power, nuclear in this country has sadly been neglected when at one time we led the world in power station equipment, exporting equipment around the world.

On the thorium subject, India's Kakrapar-1 was the first reactor in the world to use thorium and they have amongst the highest reserves of thorium and its their govt's policy to develop this technology. It should be cheaper too since isotope separation is not required, a sizeable cost saving. Along with Indian doctors, call centres, car factories, steelworks, pharmaceutical works, computer programmers, it won't be too much of a stretch of the imagination that India will lead the world in thorium reactor technology and exporting it along with Indian engineers, technicians overseeing the construction. So long as this country has an anti-nuclear power viewpoint, we'll be missing out on hi tech jobs and a valuable export market instead of paying for imported technology and labour (remember Lindsey Oil Refinery debacle - well this problem could expand to power generation).

Remember that Labour minister Alan Johnson sold British Nuclear Westinghouse, who reckoned it was worth £1bn. When Toshiba had won the bid, it valued the company at £3bn. The sale raised the eyebrows of industry experts who questioned the wisdom selling one of the world's largest producers of nuclear reactors shortly before the market for nuclear power is expected to grow substantially, especially when Toshiba said they forecast growth for the next 20 years as old reactors need replacing and developing countries wanting low carbon energy. So it looks like we shall be buying our own technology from the Japanese (who will fly over their people on key jobs) and owned by the French and Germans (who will also send their people) and who will overcharge Britons for electricity so we'll need those gadgets to save on the amount we'll get ripped off.”

“Interesting article,Jo. I "think" I read that in the Washington Post? NYT,LA Times etc,fairly recently. Their timescales were MUCH different though. Five years? Not according to them. It would be way,way,way beyond even the USA. The basic principle looks good. The problem? One absolutely,enormous expense.”

“Talking about 'climate change' .. this is interesting:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment/7970619/Obama-could-kill-fossil-fuels-overnight-with-a-nuclear-dash-for-thorium.html

Why isn't this receiving the backing and publicity it should? .. and as a matter of urgency!

Of course, it has nothing to do with the fact that Thorium plants won't make the greedy global elite oodles and oodles of dosh .. or that it will do away with the politicians means of scaring the pants off the stupid sheeple and taxing them to death?

Nah ..”

“the beautiful flowers are more important than residents safety cos councillors are brave eco-warriors”

“well if you want to encourage cleethorpes to go green why dont you help me instead of just ignoring my plead for help. All I want to do is cycle safely to work but I have tried all the councillors and local mps and none of them are interested in my plight. Dark nights and mornings are creeping in again and I am not getting any response when I ask for help but the beautiful flowers are more imnportant than my own safety”

“Oops ! What is "propanda"? Can spell. Can spell. Can spell. Try "propaganda"...Apologies. Dyslexic fingers. Brain suggests one thing,but my digits do not listen. Pooh !....”

“This is a good idea to try and reduce our energy consumption, which personally I think most of the alleged environmental issues are just natural, not man-made. As for saving money, you may do so in the short term, until the energy companies look at their profits and find they can't pay their shareholders the level of dividends they expect. At that point, the energy companies will increase their prices to return the profits to the previous levels. The increases the energy companies are allowed to introduce should be limited, like council tax rises have been. Only then might we stand a chance of getting ahead by reducing energy use.”

“Nice one, GT and NELC......This is not too hard, All you have to do is change your lifestyle slightly. Me? This type of thing I have done for thirty alot years. Demographics are firmly against "flat earth" types. Anyone under thirty is likely to be very aware of environmental issues. Propanda,state "right wing,flat earthers" No. Reality. 95% of world scentists consider mankind at fault for global warming. These are our issues,because future generations will suffer the consequences.”