Your chance to have a say on £6m Grimsby town centre transformation plan

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DETAILS of a £6 million scheme to transform Grimsby's town centre must be fine-tuned before work begins.

That is the view of the Eng-Age Transport Group, which plans to tour the areas affected by the changes and report findings to North East Lincolnshire Council.

  1. Focusing on changes:  From left, Brenda Emerson, Richard Patton and Tim Mickleburgh, acting chairman of Eng-Age, during the meeting held at Grimsby Central Library about the installation of speed bumps on Bethlehem Street and the removal of a pedestrian crossing.

    Focusing on changes: From left, Brenda Emerson, Richard Patton and Tim Mickleburgh, acting chairman of Eng-Age, during the meeting held at Grimsby Central Library about the installation of speed bumps on Bethlehem Street and the removal of a pedestrian crossing.

  2. Vision:  An artist’s impression of how  Grimsby bus station could look in the future.

    Vision: An artist’s impression of how Grimsby bus station could look in the future.

The scheme, announced in November, will see the bus station in Riverhead Square scrapped to make way for a transport super-stop linked to a major extension at Freshney Place.

It will also see one-way systems in the town centre changed by the time work is completed in 2014.

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At a meeting of Eng-Age, which represents older people, concerns were raised about the plans.

Acting chairman Tim Mickleburgh said: "The scheme is now going ahead, so this is our chance to have a say on how it will work and to come up with ways to tweak it so that they are better for users.

"People are creatures of habit and the details of a scheme like this can help make or break it.

"For instance, it needs to be made very clear which buses will be stopping where.

"We do not want to be in the same situation we have been in with the bad weather, where the information on the bus service has been atrocious."

The meeting at Grimsby Central Library heard concerns about how buses will operate while work is carried out.

Ken Oliver, from New Waltham, said: "People need to know where they should be going for the buses they need in the interim period before the new hub opens.

"It would help if Stagecoach had an advice desk which was manned by somebody with local knowledge to point people in the right direction."

The group also discussed changes to Bethlehem Street, near the Yarborough Hotel, where the council plans to remove the pedestrian crossing and install a narrow, raised area with a 20mph speed limit.

Mr Oliver added: "If the traffic is still going to be two-way then there definitely needs to be a crossing.

"Age Concern is across that road and a lot of elderly people and people with disabilities use the crossing."

Richard Patton, from Grimsby, added: "It is a very busy area and there definitely needs to be a crossing of some kind to make sure people get across the road safely."

Committee member Ray Oxby suggested members tour the areas and present concerns to the council.

Eng-Age will meet outside Wetherspoons pub, next Wednesday, from 10.30am, to formulate a list of concerns about the plans and how they can be alleviated.

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    by justsaying

    Sunday, January 20 2013, 10:22AM

    “lildog is 100% right in everything he/she says!

    I would like to add that there are also parts of Sidney Sussex, Hainton, Welholme, Heneage, Park and West Marsh that are every bit as bad as East Marsh. We hear members of this Labour led council complaining regularly about their government funding when they are neglecting the needs of 000's of residents and spending what money they have on grand schemes that are no help at all to those living in poverty and unhealthy and inadequate housing.

    I understand that NELC has over £100,000,000 (yes that's OVER ONE HUNDRED MILLION POUNDS!) set aside in reserve for a rainy day. How bad do things have to be before they start to use SOME of these reserves to benefit the poorest members of our society?

    People mocked our local MP for refusing to live like many of the residents he represents in a television programme - perhaps Cllrs Shaw and Burnett should try it for themselves to learn more about what it is to be poor. Maybe then they would put aside some of their political dogma and start to run NELC for the benefit of it's residents instead of trying to make political points that benefit no-one but themselves!”

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    by lildog

    Sunday, January 20 2013, 8:56AM

    “There is absolutely no point in raising issues with this council, it simply appears to be 'Big Brother' to Great Coates Parish Council, totally undemocratic, with a nucleus of councillors totally ignoring what others may say or feel is required for the benefit of the people of this area.
    Yes, they are going to spend £6 million on the top town, more on a swimming pool, but what are they spending on what is needed?
    The whole of the East Marsh is crying out for wholesale rejuvenation, in facilities, housing and of course the ever present question of Freeman Street.
    Roads need repairing and we need good planners.
    Scartho Top is crawling along to its completion, private builders want to build hundreds of homes on Green Belt land.
    Do you know that there are homes in existence on small pockets of land, built over six month periods, mostly for rent. If these smaller companies can build at a good rate, how about getting them moving where needed.
    And whilst we discuss things in this time of austerity, how much money has the local authority ferreted away for a rainy day?”

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    by THEAPPLE

    Saturday, January 19 2013, 3:37PM

    “1st Hedgewood where are you getting FREE deliveries from
    2nd Its nice to see such a crack team on the job GYs finest”

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    by justsaying

    Saturday, January 19 2013, 9:26AM

    “There is no point at all in commenting on this or any other plans from this Labour led council. They will not take any more notice of public opinion on these unwanted proposals than they have with the swimming pool!

    The manufacturers of swimming pools say they can build a new pool for a fraction of the cost that the council claims (and the same happened with the projected cost of a new ice rink as well), so why not build a new pool on some of the waste ground along the Freshney - that would be a much better use of £6million than this scheme!”

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    by socks_uk

    Saturday, January 19 2013, 9:25AM

    “After watching recent BBC news reports on how 'out of town' shopping centres are affecting high streets, I don't think this is the case with Grimsby but we need to protect ours so we don't end up with two 'Freeman Streets'.
    Why not use the land opposite the multistory car park (Riverhead end) on the other side of Fredrick Ward Way to build a transport hub with an undercover central corridor waiting area like the one in Hull next to the railway station? It could also act as a taxi rank in the evening.

    Yes, there will be a busy road between the buses and the shops but again, it seems to work in Hull. There could be a one-way entrance in from Alexandra Road and a one-way exit, via a bridge, joining the B&M/Dreams exit. Entrance to B&M/Dreams could be via the old entrance/exit on Victoria Street.

    I obviously have no idea how much the land would cost, the bridge would cost or the development of the bus station would cost but I see the advantage in a covered bus station... especially in this weather!”

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    by vikti

    Saturday, January 19 2013, 12:07AM

    “What is the point of Councillor Oxby suggesting that people voice their concerns to NELC. Whatever Mr Oxby's views may be on this and whether people oppose it or not NELC have made their minds up and its a case of the Council wills it so it shall be done. What residents and bus users think won't make one jot of difference.”

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    by muff10

    Friday, January 18 2013, 7:37PM

    “it may create some much needed job`s”

  • Profile image for williewonky

    by williewonky

    Friday, January 18 2013, 7:29PM

    “Internet 1 - High Street 0.

    Spend the £6m where it is needed, the roads for starters.”

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    by Hedgewood

    Friday, January 18 2013, 4:42PM

    “Why would I drive into town to go shopping, when with 1 click of a mouse I get next day Free delivery?”

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    by AnnonGY

    Friday, January 18 2013, 3:09PM

    “Society is now using the Internet for shopping more and more. The likes of HMV and other big companies are falling into administration due to the current economy and the growth of e-commerce.

    Why spend £6m on improving something based on people actually 'going to the shops'. The shops might not be there in 10 years time. We might not need the new Bus hub. There might not be the need for all these shoppers to travel to Grimsby Town.

    I know it's unlikely the common shop will disappear for ever..we still need them. But maybe spending so much money on something that will change dramatically in the next few years seems a little pointless.

    If its not broken don't fix it, Improve it. And by the looks of the people in this photograph...I would say they are out of touch with the modern way of thinking might be unable to think of new creative ways to improve things.

    It's all about the use of Computers and the Internet. The Next Generation of shoppers who will be using the Town Centre & the Buses are currently in school, on their mobiles, laptops, tablets, Internet, emails, texting. Surely we should be looking at how best to accommodate the future 'shopper'.”

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