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'I feel like Churchill - we will fight them' says speed scheme protestor

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Monday, July 30, 2012
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RESIDENTS have until next Thursday to make their objections to a raft of proposed speed limit reductions across North East Lincolnshire.

As reported, the council is planning to bring down the speed limits on sections of the A180, A18, A1136 and a number of residential streets.

  1. TRAFFIC MEASURES:  Hayden Dawkins, who started a petition calling for  proposals for speed limit cuts to be scrapped, is urging  residents to make their objections known.  Picture: Rick Byrne

    TRAFFIC MEASURES: Hayden Dawkins, who started a petition calling for proposals for speed limit cuts to be scrapped, is urging residents to make their objections known. Picture: Rick Byrne

The £500,000 scheme met with opposition from residents and councillors, who called for it to be shelved to allow alternative road safety improvements to be considered.

However, in April, the then portfolio holder for environment Alex Wallace decided to press ahead with the scheme, and the proposals have now been put out to consultation.

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Humberston resident Hayden Dawkins, who started a petition calling for the proposals to be scrapped, is urging fellow residents to make their objections known.

He said: "There is not long left to go. People really need to be getting their objections in. People round here think it is not worth objecting and that it's a done deal and they will put it through whatever they say.

"But we have to stand up and have our say. I feel like Churchill. We will fight them on the beach, we will fight them on the A180!"

Mr Dawkins also expressed concerns that residents were not able to object to the proposals on the council website.

He said: "It makes it really hard to put an objection in. I went into the offices to make an objection and it took the woman ten minutes to find the plans for me to object to. That's what niggles me. I really do feel like they're going through the motions."

Councillor Philip Jackson (Con, Waltham), who sat on the scrutiny panel which recommended to Mr Wallace that the proposals be made subject to a full scrutiny review, said: "I spent quite a lot of time searching the council website and I could find consultations on other proposed traffic regulation orders, but not these.

"My question is why aren't they on the website? If it is an omission then I think there might be an argument for extending the consultation."

The proposals are due to come back before the regeneration and environment scrutiny panel after the end of the public consultation.

Mr Jackson said he intended to object to most of the speed reductions being proposed.

"Where we are talking about 20mph speed limits around schools, that is a separate issue and I don't intend to oppose those.

"But as far as most of the others are concerned I will be calling for them to be examined because I am not convinced that we will be making best use of council tax payers' money by going down the route of blanket speed limit reductions.

"That is almost the lazy man's way of doing it. We want to be looking at more imaginative ways of making those particular stretches of road safer."

Make your views known

Members of the public can comment on the proposals by writing to Marc Cole, strategic director of environment, economy and housing, Municipal Offices, Town Hall Square, Grimsby, DN31 1HU. They must state the grounds for any objections raised. The deadline is Thursday, August 9.

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  • Profile image for Hedgewood

    by Hedgewood

    Friday, August 03 2012, 11:05PM

    “There is more than 1 one-way system in Grimsby

    Exactly my point, most of them send you in the wrong direction not a great distance but with all lights on red, not good”

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    by RoadWorker

    Friday, August 03 2012, 7:05PM

    “How many of the people on here sent in their protest ?”

  • Profile image for RoadWorker

    by RoadWorker

    Friday, August 03 2012, 7:03PM

    “Hedgewood

    There is more than 1 one-way system in Grimsby, which one are you commenting on?”

  • Profile image for Intolerant

    by Intolerant

    Friday, August 03 2012, 12:44AM

    “The only people these measures will affect are the ones who already drive safely and considerately, plus it will just lead to even more congestion.
    Idiotic incompetent drivers and boy racers will continue to drive like imbeciles no matter what legislation's are brought in, its the nature of the beast.
    Impeding the majority for the sake of a minority of idiots is just wrong and will change nothing for the better.
    Its the same as expecting armed robbers and gangsters to behave just because there are firearms legislation's...........it won't work.........rules are only there for the law abiding to obey.”

  • Profile image for Hedgewood

    by Hedgewood

    Thursday, August 02 2012, 11:36PM

    “RoadWorker you said

    "Which one-way system do you find stupid"

    Are you for real?


    .”

  • Profile image for porcelainblak

    by porcelainblak

    Thursday, August 02 2012, 10:56PM

    “Whilst everyone is busy slinging insults to and fro on this forum, don't forget that this proposal being "put out to consultation" is just a smoke screen.

    A consultation period just means that the council will pay lip service to democracy, pretending that we all have a say, but they have already decided what to do and will go ahead anyway regardless of public opinion.

    All this will then count for nothing, except increased blood pressure for all concerned!”

  • Profile image for RoadWorker

    by RoadWorker

    Thursday, August 02 2012, 9:05PM

    “I do a lot more than put cones out, and I do apologies to those who are making sense, but when statements are wrong or incorrect I come down to their level”

  • Profile image for NoToTheVillageHall

    by NoToTheVillageHall

    Thursday, August 02 2012, 8:46PM

    “Ishouldknow - There were 34 seriously injured or killed in the ten years prior to the speed changes, that doesn't equate to 9 a year? Let's remember the speed limits were not the only changes! The exit from Laceby is quite different and you can no longer enter Laceby at the Caistor Road Entrance travelling towards the Oaklands.

    And Roadworker - addressing people as idiots won't get you listened to. Just because you put a few cones out on the road does not make you an expert.”

  • Profile image for RoadWorker

    by RoadWorker

    Thursday, August 02 2012, 8:42PM

    “Drivel that is base on fact - not made up nonsense”

  • Profile image for realworldman

    by realworldman

    Thursday, August 02 2012, 8:06PM

    “Road worker, sit down and have a rest, you have done too much you are spouting drivel.”

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