“Well since it has been mentioned, I will comment on the Laceby bypass. I hope that Cllr Burgess is now happy that he has singlehandedly made a perfectly safe road into a death trap. Nothing to do with speed! It is the dangerous bunching of cars being OH so particular and deeming 50 too fast and imposing ridiculously slow speeds on people wanting to go about their buisness. All that happens is that cars are bunched together making any manouver on the road potentially lethal. That road is more than capable of 60MPH, it needs putting up to that to make it safe.”

“Jimbo makes a fair point. At two hours per day and for less than 200 days per year the congestion actually condenses to just about 18 days per year.”

“There's an address to write to in to-nights GT.

I suggest all protester (there will be more than those who agree) write to it. Flood them with your protests, public opinion just might make them change their minds.

Development Management Services,
Origin 2,
2 Origin Way,
Europarc, Grimsby.”

“Chris, Scunthorpe - I wondered how long it would be before soemone mentioned Laceby Bypass. I drive the road daily, and whilst some flout the law, most do not. By the way Chris, I hope you realise the police still enforce from the platform that you probably drive past "foot flat down"? Here's hoping they take you and all the other irresponsible idiots off the road soon!”

“I would agree with the last two comments from k and jimbo.

This problem needs to be solved by the school and council working together. I do think that the school has to take a far greater degree of responsiblity for the traffic issues. They should move the entrance for starters.

The council should also look more closely at the commuting distance of pupils attending tollbar. Signhills school (the areas largest priamary school) is now one of the main feeder schools for tollbar and yet it is over 5 miles away! how can this work?? it is this reason why there are so many so called chealsea tractors stopping and dropping kids off. This should not be necessary as ALL pupils should live within a 30 min walk of their secondary school and thus not need to be driven to school.

A larger issue comes to bare here in that tollbar is by far the best and most popular school in NELC and perhaps more effort should be made to bring the other schools for example Lindsey School up to standard so that cleethorpes parents can send their kids to a quality local school rather than shipping them out to tollbar.

Rather ironically it seems to have fallen to tollbar to fix lindsey and i just hope lindsey doesn't become a dumping ground for the kind of kids that the main tollbar school doesn't want on roll!”

“Toll Bar is a big rich school that would like to be bigger and richer. Yet it does not seem to do a lot to safeguard its children. Surely someone there has noticed one obvious way to stop at least some of the problem on Station Road - create a new entrance in the old road on Louth Road. The school seems to expect the council (us the tax payers) to do everything while the school keeps all its money for new facilities to attract even more pupils.

For 90% of the day there is no parking problem and hardly anyone has a difficulty crossing the road. For 12 weeks of the year the school is closed. So why does the council in its great wisdom think the road needs a lower limit just for this short time and for the benefit of a school that doesn't even help itself?”

“I think the coucil and the school should sort something out together regarding parking/dropping off facilities for parents. I drive via Tollbar every day and have to admit that it is really annoying when people randomly stop to let their kids out but by the same token, there is literally nowhere for them to park up safely. I think it is wrong to assume that the school should organise and pay for parking facilities though because this is something that the council should be doing in partnership with the school. I think it should be 40mph all the way along station road up to where it changes to 30 as there are often other hazards along that road other than kids, such as horse riders and people pulling out of the farm shop. I think 40 is a sensible speed for this road.”

“Once again our esteemed Council are guilty of jumping headfirst into decisions without a care for the consequences.
Station Road at Toll Bar, yes there should be a speed limit. 20MPH, from just before the first entrance to the school site to the roundabout, which can revert to 40MPH after 9:30am and switch back between 3:00 and 4:00 PM, with the signs programmed not to change in holidays. We live in the age of technology it isn't hard to do that. (It is akin to the tidal flow signs in Lincoln. They seem to work without causing turmoil!!)
As for Peakes Raceway! There is no need for a 30 MPH limit except for possibly the run up to the traffic lights, (just like on the A180 into Grimsby on the approach to the roundabouts.) The speed limit from B&Q should then be 60MPH. There shouldn't be any pedestrians as there isn't a pathway and there is a sign saying no pedestrians I believe.
As for the Police claiming it will cause more accidents! I think that they are simply wrong, the stretch of road is no more dangerous than the A16 beyond Toll Bar where the limit is 60, or any other road I can think of.
Remember speed does not kill! Excessive speed for the conditions causes accidents which in turn can cause loss of life. If people were more thoughtful and drove to the conditions, there would be less accidents.”

“As I understand it roads are for cars and for pedestrians wishing to come onto car territory there are numerous designated areas for this such as traffic islands and crossings. Cars drive accordingly when approaching such crossing areas and pedestrians can cross safely. Why should cars also then have to abide by an unwritten law that says 'drive slowly selfish pedestrians operate in these areas' such as schools and shops. If you don't want dead people on the road then they should damn well follow the laws of roads and crossings. It is pedestrians that are going too fast, being unaware of their surroundings and acting selfishly. In a battle between my car and your body you best be careful.”

“Martin K - Put your handbag down first, secondly I fail to see the difference between -quote 'bothering you if you killed a child, and questioning yourself constantly' and guilt. If a child steps in front of my car while I am driving legally, again no I would have no questions about myself. If you would so be it but don't come on here preaching and expect everyone to feel the same. Who the hell do you people think you are giving moral guidance on every local issue and giving no quarter for a difference of opinion. You are either drunk or mentally wanting and if neither of those then stop shouting when you have nothing to say.”